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New Deviation Page Testing

Thu Aug 15, 2013, 2:33 PM

Deviation pages are one of the most visited areas of deviantART. With hundreds of millions of deviations to view, and 65 million people browsing the site each month, we want to ensure that navigating deviation pages is as seamless as possible, allowing visitors to get the most of their viewing experience.

What's new?

All deviation details, like an artwork's description, submission information, stats, and sharing options, now appear directly beneath the deviation. (When viewing your own artwork, the Edit and Delete buttons also appear beneath the art, so you no longer have to search the sidebar to find essential tools.)

The right-hand sidebar now focuses on items related to the deviation. The first item featured in the sidebar is More From This Artist. Thumbnails in the More From This Artist section have been made larger and are now based on an advanced algorithm that will surface work that is more relevant to the art currently being viewed, helping to bring more attention to you and your art. 

Beneath More From This Artist in the right sidebar, you'll find More from deviantART results (formerly titled More Like This) and Featured in Groups, if that deviation has been accepted into any Groups.

We've been testing the new deviation page changes to logged-out visitors for quite some time and have monitored performance, making updates as needed to help further traffic to you and your art. When comparing old vs. new deviation pages with logged-out traffic, we found that visitors seeing the new deviation page were:
  • 2.5 times more likely to click to view another piece of art by that artist
  • 4 times more likely to click through to view that artist's Gallery
  • 12 times more likely to view Prints by that artist

Testing new vs. old deviation pages

Rolling out changes on deviantART is always a big deal and we're well aware that any change we make -- especially to something as integral as our deviation pages -- affects millions of people. We've already been testing the new deviation page changes to logged-out visitors for quite some time and have monitored performance, making changes as needed to help further traffic to you and your art.

Powered by data and feedback from our logged-out tests, we're now ready to test new vs. old deviation pages to deviantART's logged-in audience.  Testing two similar, yet different, versions of our deviation page will allow us to gather information and effectively compare which version performs better and is better received by the community.

By the time you read this journal, we'll have already implemented our new deviation page testing. When viewing deviation pages, you'll either see the new or old version. During this testing period, there is no way to switch from new to old, or vice versa.

Thank you!

Thank you for helping us test out the changes to the deviation page. When making changes to the site, we want to be sure that we are providing a better experience, and your use of the site and feedback in doing so helps us to provide the best deviantART possible.

Deviation pages are one of the most visited areas of deviantART. With hundreds of millions of deviations to view, and 65 million people browsing the site each month, we want to ensure that navigating deviation pages is as seamless as possible, allowing visitors to get the most of their viewing experience.
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Ask-Alene Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
just a note:

I find the Logout from different platforms a terrible idea. Seems to be really hacker friendly.
PepoFaec Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Also- when I look at that button, I feel like I'm favoriting the artist instead of the submission. 
PepoFaec Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Please move the favorite's button back. I'm not one suffering from this crazy but that's the ugliest setup I've ever seen. Don't you think that grouping buttons would be a lot less chaotic and be more visually appealing to the eyes? 
SailorCross Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
for the love of all that is good remove me from the A/B test group! I don't care if there is no way to switch from the new to the old. I WANT OUT!
iPersonator Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013  Hobbyist
We don't want this! We want an edit button in our comments.
oliverdylan Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
nice all pic'x
BoneifiedSkelefun Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I hate it. Like the new journal/gallery pages, it's a cluttered obnoxious mess. I hate the large pageview thing too. It's making everything into a damn popularity contest and thus shames the artists who only get maybe 20 views. It's awful and I hate it a lot. 

Ugh, you guys are really pissing me off. All you're doing is creating more bugs, more problems, and this is why your severs have crashed 3 times this month.
SailorCross Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013
Please remove me from the A/B testing group. I don't like being forced into this especially when I was never asked. I have two other accounts which I will provide. If you're so desperate for feedback here's mine I hate! I don't like the saving of things I decide against posting, I also don't like rich text, I don't like where the submit button is located in the gallery tabs makes it look ridiculous, I also don't like the removal of the buttons in the journal in favor of the same submit thing in the gallery. I Hate the use of writer, it slows my chrome and the tool bars are bothersome especially since I will never use them! Oh and let's not forget the continual forceful testing! I did not ever express written or otherwise my approval for this. Is it in the terms of service? Please show me where I consented! I also don't like the new comments, it was fine the way it was. Let's see... what are my other grievances... the forceful usage of and the occasional "You can't submit due to unknown error!" Chat disconnects me for no reason and then reconnects me, also it doesn't like Opera. Oh and I'm not too fond of having my deviation save to just for it to be submitted, it reminds me of Peoplesoft where you have to go through thirty windows to get it to work.
zombie-67 Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013

I see we have a new layout. In general it is okay.

But there is a real problem. It used to be that the "Remove from Messages" button was always in the same place. No scrolling around on the page to find it. You could keep the pointer in the same place to click it over and over, as needed.

Now the button moves around according to the change in size of each image. This is a real pain, when trying to go through hundreds of images a day.

Please move it back to a fixed position.

Fluna Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm happy beyond words that at last the right sidebar showcases more of the artist and that gives it priority! Really good change, I'm digging it!!
Sirielle Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013   Digital Artist
=joeyh3 is right, I just noticed I still browse with the old system while being a beta tester :O_o:
Sirielle Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013   Digital Artist
I noticed there is no "Cancel" button ('abort', 'go back', whatever fitting best) after hitting "Edit", there is only "Update" option. If one changes mind and don't want to update anything it would be useful to have such "Cancel" possibility, since going back in browser doesn't help (Google Chrome), page has to be reloaded to get rid of the editing view.
starobots Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013
I dislike the fact that when you click "share", it hides the description. Artist comments are important and it's already a struggle to get people to pay attention to them, I feel like hiding them in order to share is only going to make it worse. 

I also dislike that the new look throws off the "balance" of the page for me. I appreciate the attempt to make things more accessible, but I don't think it was necessary. I feel like everything has now been pushed to the left side, making it seem heavier (cluttered). I liked being able to focus on the left side for the art without having a bunch of buttons and options there to distract me.

To me, it's much less confusing and much easier to navigate if you stick with the same policy of the user page and have the "art/comments" on one side and all of the action buttons on the other side. I don't think that moving buttons around is really an important feature, and to me it seems like it would only confuse people who have been using the site for a long time. 

CallMeDoc Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
Just gave it a better look, and... if we get the option, I like some features on the old deviation pages a lot better.
I'd rather just scroll a bit for the extra information that got placed on another tag.

Though if we have to tolerate "More from deviantart", it makes all sense that it was at least moved down, below "More from this artist" on the new page.
DaEvilKitty Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013

I like having both more from the artist and more from deviantART on the right of the screen. And while I'm used to going to the right to favourite, I'm sure I can adapt to it on the left.


However, if I am viewing a deviation from my messages, I have to scroll down to favourite or remove the deviation from my messages even if I haven't viewed it in fullsize. I would prefer to not need to scroll to do this. Especially for literature - if I start reading and decide partway through I am uninterested in reading the rest, I still need to scroll down to the artist's comments to remove it, or I need to go back into my message centre to do so. I do not find this to be very efficient.


On a more positive note, I appreciate having the stats near the artist's comment, as they are easier to find there rather than scrolling down the page looking for them. I'm uncertain if I like the need to click on "Details" to see more information about these stats though.


I hope my feedback helps. ^^


barananduen Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013   General Artist
I still get the old deviation page layout, so I can't comment on logged-in-only features, nor have I been able to test-drive it, but if it looks like this logged out page that I saw about a week ago, screencap: then I like it! :D

My comments on this layout were:

Things I love
More from [Artist] is on top! :D (Big Grin)
MLT is below and renamed to make clear it's work from people other than the artist :D (Big Grin)
More from Artist and MLT have the same number and size of thumbs :D (Big Grin)
Download, Fav, Details, etc are grouped together and cleaned up :D (Big Grin)

Overall an very good version!

Thank you!

Pending would be to make sure that "More from DevArt" does not include mature content on non-mature deviations, and some way of selecting which works are displayed on "More from [Artist]" (checkbox on the Manage Deviations page, or the most popular works, or most recent)

Again, thank you so much for listening to our feedback!
Dark-Arctic-Fox Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Student Photographer
It is very uncomfortable, that for viewing the date of publication to include tab "details"
joeyh3 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The new interface looks very awesome! I love how the "more from this artist" bit has been restored to a prominent place, and the overall interface looks cleaner and more organized.

I am curious though - why am I paying $30 a year for a premium membership so that I can be an "official beta tester" when all the cool and wanted new features are being given to guests and free members first, before they're given to people who are actually paying to have access to them?
ARCADE-PUNK Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hello! I was sent here by $ewm, on behalf of the new site update regarding the new deviation page layout! I feel that the old layout was a bit easier to navigate with! In the new update, I have to scroll down just to add the deviation to my favorites, or remove it from my messages! :noes: In the past layout, the buttons were placed conveniently to the right of the screen, within range of sight WITHOUT having to scroll down! The new buttons, I have to say, are a lot more attractive! Though, they need to be easier to access. I rest my case by requesting that maybe you guys could move the buttons back to their original positions! Thanks!
Laur720 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I feel the thumbs for more from the artist and more art like this compete with my attention on the devation I try to look at. I look at the other are more than I look at the main deviation now. It overshadows the main art.
iPersonator Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist
It's deviantArt Version 8!
pica-ae Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
I have said before, right side bar looks great :) 
But I am not a fan of hiding the sharing options ( and thumbcode) as well as the tab "details". Those things should be easy to access to make sharing quicker. In best case without a click in between. 
Krissi001 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
Kutlessrocker Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
New deviation page looks awkward.  The page is fine the way it is.  Nothing needed changing.
thaliel Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
also not happy with how things are sorted on the new version. The favourite button definately is too far down, especially on smaller screen resolutions. Also, I would suggest thet "more fom this user" and "more from Deviantart" are changed a bit. Instead of already displayinf the sirt few suggested/feautred images, I would prefer it if I just had the link of the module, and then see the images when I click on the module. This would save space and also make the deviation page itself more "calm" to the eyes
SmudgeDragon Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I am really actively disliking the 'Favorite' and 'Remove From Messages' buttons being so far down the page. By putting them so low I have to scroll down the page to access them, I have actively changed they way I view the people and galleries I watch to avoid hitting the main deviation page as much as possible. I am more likely to simply hit the remove all button instead of going in and viewing the gallery quickly like I use to.
Ninefiftin Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Hi, dear dA staff.

Here I collected various opinions about the new deviation page...

I have to say that I definitely don't like the changes. We are several people to think this way and here is what we have to say :
Broadwinger Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's really distracting. I've gotten used to it now and I can deal with it, but it is completely distracting. It is harder to add things to my favorites now, and now there are two things of "more like this" on the side of my Deviation. It is completely distracting from the original artwork. I hope this does not pass.
Ebonsong Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
I do not see the changes yet, so I can't fully comment. I can say moving More Like This below "more from this artist" is a late move, even if in the right direction. Also, renaming it is a sadly expected move; now dA can start fresh without all the past complaint history backing them up.
Krissi001 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
I had to restyle the deviation pages because it bothered me too much.  :stare: 
Sadly I wasn't able to move the Edit/Delete button on my own deviations, (especially on Journals) those bother me the most. :grump:    [I guess from now on I will have to include an edit button in my journals :P]

The Script sadly doesn't work properly on deviations with camera data or an attached License , but I can live with it :B     And I can't share it because it is optimized for my screen, it looks really odd when I change the size of my window :slow:

If you want to see it:

ZeroStrife96 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I like this layout but maybe it would be a good idea to give us (users) the choice in the settings menu or so to select whatever layout we want to use... actually some users have it and some don't so I think of it like the options for displaying commentaries that everyone can have as they want
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I think it's a great idea - most of it definitely seems more clean, easy to access and visually 'nicer.' However it's very difficult having to scroll through a couple of pages of 'details' to get to the thumb code. I guess when familiar with it, I'll just click 'share' and grab the code from there, but still it was much nicer having it all accessible on one page. I also wonder how many favs are going to be 'not given' due to the button almost always being a 'scroll' away. :)
samuRAI-same Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
Are you done testing yet.. change it back already, i would really like to look at art and cant with this new layout....... :/
Rubykickz Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
I'm still waiting to be able to totally disable More like this from my art.
You shouldn't be praised for "listening" to us since you didn't. we were stuck with the feature for months and you just move it below. Gosh Everyone acts like moving it below more from the artist makes ignoring us and adding more thumbs to it when we asked for it gone ok. It DOESN'T fix the issue with me. It should be OPTIONAL. I pay you guys for premium memberships and by a lot of them and points for my friends. Atleast the paying members SHOULD be able to disable advertising other artist on their own art.  :/

I'm not going to act like you are some hero for moving it below more from the artist, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE! So my suggestion would be to have it a premium feature for us to remove. I know what greedy bastards you are so this idea should get you all pumped and excited. I know I brought this up before but it really pisses me off to see everyone all happy you moved it. I'm not. I won't be happy until it's gone since that's what WE ASKED FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Inb4/ "Oh dats not fair non subscribers shuld get dat 2 whaaa"
If you spend money for something you deserve more features, why else would people pay?

((Also not really looking for responses to this or "this" replies it just spams my inbox))
redfoxj Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I knew I commented before with complaints, but it was mostly because I was stuck with the old page view. Now that I have gotten to see how the new page views are...

Changing "More Like This" to "More From deviantART", which may seem like a small name change, but something is better about it: the results shown are more relative to the deviation! (I guess some coding was juggled enough to merit a name change for this gadget.) To me it's a huge improvement.

Moving the More from This Artist above the More from dA! I can't express how much better this is!! On top of that, you made the thumbnails the same size and everything, so the artist's other pieces isn't overshadowed. Thank you!

The stretched box on the right behind these may be a small design change, but sectioning it off somewhat makes it easier to navigate. I don't see the large empty space much of a problem at all.

The deviation details and the Fav button are kinda in weird places, so that takes some getting used to. But it's not much an issue to me since I'm an avid Youtube watcher.

Overall, I like the new format. I really like it better than the old one. I would have really loved to be in the group that gets the new pages.
Katy-L-Wood Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Student General Artist
I like it! There's only one tiny little bit of redundancy that bugs me, which I've been meaning to point out for awhile but I've been crazy busy. Do we really need to sets of sharing buttons? We've got the ones on the right side column, and the ones under the deviations. I'm not sure I see any reason to have both.
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Hmmz I only have one set...
Blueranyk Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd like the old deviation pages back. The new ones are kinda confusing.
blackstorm Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
I honestly don't know what to make of the new deviation page testing. I've mixed feelings about it. The general gallery thumbnails on the right is rather distracting and what annoys me the most is the +favourites button now being placed at the bottom left. As one who tends to fav-and-run, it was more convenient at the top right, now I've to scroll all the way down (more so if the artwork is extremely long, length wise, like a comic for instance) or just drag-and-drop the deviation into the drop-down favorites folder menu at the top, especially to check if I've +favourited the particular artwork before or not (sometimes I forgot to do so). If you would not revert the favourites button back to it's previous place, then at least please consider moving it somewhere at the right, not so far at the left where everything else is basically on the right.
Keabun Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
This feature is nice except that when you open a devation in your mail you have to scroll down a little to push the button " remove it from your mailbox".  Other than that I like it so far :)
Coplins Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Allright, I've commented on this before but now I've had this for a while and I have noticed a big change in my own behaviour when viewing art so I'll review it once again.
Since you messed up the deviation pages I've browsed more of the artists art as I'm very likely to click myself forward from the right side thumbnails. 


I've favourited less artworks. The button is placed in an akward place and if the artwork is anything but tiny the button must be sought out rather than being "in your face". I'm generally a lazy silent stalker type so I need to be coerced into favouriting, commenting and sharing.

I've opened up less art-stacks as there all the sudden is a need to scroll to remove a deviation from messages. Therefor I only viewed art as thumbnails.

That has led to less interaction with other artists as I don't open up their artwork, I comment less.

I have not featured or shared any art since it changed from being a simple scroll, copy and paste matter to being a scroll, click and copy and paste thing. It's one thing too much, in my opinion, the quick links for share/thumbnail should have been located under the old  favourite location in the upper right corner above the other artwork thumbnails.

My basic use of deviant art is for playing art role playing games. I view art related to this the most and watch artists who also play. My basic art role playing is of dogs. Each character needs to be drawn to gain xp and titles and whatnot. Since I like many others have a few more characters to draw than I can keep active enough I commission alot normally. Either through the widget or through donations depending on the artist's wishes. I have commissioned less since the change as my general art consumption has gone down and with that my own inspiration to publish and participate.

Please change the deviation page pack to normal or atleast make the way to view it optional. deviant art has become so much less user friendly and might be good for occational art browser but not for the everyday hardcore dA-community deviant.
Advenderptss Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Student Photographer
I'm actually indifferent about the new features on deviant art as long as I can use it I'm fine it so I honestly don't care 
jaclynonacloud Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I'm not sure I like the tabs... They seem bulky and messy, and I like using Thumbs which means extra clicks..
Also, maybe change the shape/size/look of the favourite button if the site wishes to use this setup.  It looks ugly and clunky now.

I am very happy about the more from artist though.  It puts the artist's work first and that is important for exposure. : )
Laur720 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
please put the remove from messages buttons back where they were and the favorite button. my newstack takes longer to clear and I am browsing less art since I am less likely to bookmark it now. 
Keabun Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
I have the same problem.. I need to scroll down to get to the fave and remove from messages buttons, and its really bothersome :O
Laur720 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
yeah I like to browse through at full size and remove art once I look at it. its really annoying, they moved it the remove art button.
solalis1226 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013   General Artist
I like the old deviation pages:cry:
BlueRedDog Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
Please put the button remove from message back to its old position.
When looking to a lots of art messages it becomes anoying and time
consuming to scroll down to the button.
LucyNickBakura Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013 froze again :B
LucyNickBakura Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
Whatever has changed in layout, its working horrible!
In last few days, i'm constantly having bugs and glitches! I can no longer reply on comment like a normal human! It either freezes or changes font style, word order....

It there anyone who could help me?
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